Purser Wellness Open House Livestream Recap: Root-Cause Medicine, Breakthroughs in Inflammation & R

Hey, this is Dr. Dan Perer. Danpermd.com here. Um, welcome to our Facebook live for our grand opening of our big clinic here in uh in where are we? Pleasant Grove. Is this still Pleasant Grove? I don't even know. Um, and we're right behind, we're easy to find because we're

right behind the Tesla dealership. So, we see those Teslas racing by all day long. U, this has been a long time coming getting here. And, um, and we've got really good staff, really awesome people that work for us. You probably met a lot of them if you called. We

[clears throat] had some rules. We always try and return all calls. we um we it may not be right away, but it'll be eventually if we can't get you. Um we'll try and reach out somewhere or another, but you need to if you email

us, we'll try and always respond to those, too. Um what are you you can talk to them, too? Oh, okay. I thought I had to look at the camera. Okay. Hi. We have a little audience here. Um so we

so we always try and respond. So, we're not we're not that practice that never responds to your emails or questions. Um, I was the Utah County Medical Association rep 15 years only that only ended a few years ago. And the number one complaint I had to go out and deal

with all the time were doctors weren't responding to emails or phone calls. I don't know how you don't get sued into oblivion doing that. But, uh, so we always respond. So, I'd go out and talk to them and they kind of like, we'll try. I will try to do better, but they

didn't do better. So, um, so we'll always reach back to you. Um, I deal in root cause medicine if you're wondering what I do. Uh, and root cause medicine, I don't know, I kind of coined that term, but I'm sure I'm sure I think I

did. Someone probably did it elsewhere, but I really go to the fundamentals. We look at intracellular vitamin and minerals and and um and any uh antioxidants and um and we also uh look at any um any

severe deficiencies a little differently. We get really aggressive. I diagnosed 14 scurvy cases last year and 14 this year or year before. So I've had 12 I think so far this year. So, um, just saw another one the other day. And,

um, scurvy, if you wonder if you have scurvy, you're really pale. You look like a goth or a vampire. You can see the blood on your teeth if anyone's talking to you because your gums are bleeding all the time. And if anyone touches you, it hurts. It's agonal. It's terrible. And, um, I can spot him a mile

away now at the mall or at Walmart. I want to go up and talk to him, give him give him an orange, but I a Johnny orange seat there. But I um I I can't do that under Utah law. We're not allowed to approach potential patients and go, "You need help. Here, take some vitamin

C." Um and we see a lot of other conditions. I was just talking to someone here earlier tonight about dementia, Alzheimer's, Alzheimer's disease, how common it is. I don't think it's that common. I think what we're seeing is a lot of patients with vitamin

deficiency. You get a ri you get a a B1 or thyon deficiency. It's called Waricki syndrome. If it's not that severe, warn syndrome is memory loss. If it gets really severe, it becomes irreversible.

It's worn corsov syndrome. That's just from a B1 deficiency. Could be a PQQ deficiency. It could be a a lithium deficiency. could be any number of other deficiencies causing the dementia. Don't put your loved one in nursing home without without at least getting a a

that CMA with redux from someone. You don't have to get it from us, but get that intracellular vitamin panel. It's incredibly accurate. I've done 30,000 of those. Now, uh we did them at USC where I was doing cardiology and pituitary endocrinology research. We'd see

pituitary cases that weren't they didn't have a pituitary problem. they had a vitamin deficiency problem and so we deal with those that was with the US assistant surgeon general that's where I learned that skill um that was Nabil Jim from Harvard um and the NIH and Walter

Reed great guy um uh we also have tech that no one else has we have um glutathione sod um and uh now we have new catal out we got patent pendings or patents on all those um and we're the

only ones out there with it. Nine Patel and I designed in Chintron, Dr. Tron, Dr. Patel and I helped some especially with the preclinical work. We designed [clears throat] the first gluteril in La Habra while I was down in at USC

and stuff. We're really we weren't at USC, we were over in San of all places, but at a big endocrinology clinic, but so La Habra is just a small step away from there. And so we'd go over to nine and Chen's lab and discuss it, talk about it, work on it. Um, and I'd start

looking at the pre-clinical data and everything on it. Uh, so I was involved in that patent too. And, uh, Joe Rogan interviewed Lion about that. So did Gary Brea. Uh, because that's the real deal. We sell the glutil here, too, because they allow us to do that because I'm I

was part of the team. Uh, I have a patent on bars glutathione in multiple countries. Um, it really does work. It's incredible if you haven't tried it. Um, so, okay. Sorry. I don't keep looking at So, I'm used to looking at a camera. And, um, and she's waving the number one

finger, but stop. Okay. Um, so I got voted the number one MD in the USA about six months ago, I think. And, um, I'm for solo MDs in the USA. Um, and that's crazy. It's based on

really it's not not really that that amazing. It's based on five star reviews. I think I had 1,200 plus then across all social media platforms. I got 1300 now. We have big plans for the future. We're going to um get even more

aggressive with these inflammatory conditions. Uh our max DRP, thank you. are maxed in DRP except four cytoines but also it's all 22 snips that could cause u homoyine

problems. No one knows about that technology. No one knows that my homo assisting textbook comes out what in about another three or four weeks it's done. It's ready. It's right on the edge. And um 600 pages of research we did on that project. Um I have another

one coming out on PEMT later this year. That's the number one cause of liver failure. Uh and nafal D fatty liver disease and nash alcoholic hepatitis. Uh it's PMT and it's a phosphotooline deficiency and a few other deficiencies

that occur from that. Homoyine is a cytoine problem in the end. It's the number one cause of kidney failure, heart attack, strokes and and with the data we know now, I'd argue with anyone on that data. So um yet 60% of the US population has it and no one knows

really how to treat it. So my book defines all that explains all that that come that comes down to the genetic practice we have now. Um and Jensen Wang the head of Nvidia um has this saying

that really really smart people with empathy and the capability to help people. They're really really smart ones. the really smart ones uh uh can see around corners and I think that's kind of what I do every day. I see around corners. Um and um I it's kind of

weird that I can do that and I'm getting better at it as I get older. I'm going to have my limit eventually, but um inflammation is the number one complaint people have on Google every day. Literally millions of people search for answers on Google as to why they have

inflammation and no one um no one can really seem to help them. They give them doctors give them insaids like ibuprofen or napin or or um or moxyam and they give them um they give them steroids and that's pretty much your

options. Or they tell you to go take anti-depressant. That's pretty common. You must be depressed. That's why you feel the inflammation. I don't know how that works but um what I find is most of them have cytoine problems. Cytoine is where all the hot new research is. All

the big pharmas are trying to design biologicals for for cytoine problems. Um and like Skyrizzy which everyone sees ads for. I mean how many times you turn on TV there's 18 Skyrizzy ads. SC Rizzie

runs around 24,000 a month uh your for your injectable for your IVs and insurance will pay part of it. You get to pay the rest. Uh they will help. They have several programs that can help. Um and I always tell the patients

when I find cytoine issues to see immunologists and to get on the the um the biological most refuse. That's their choice. I've made educated and decision for them to you know inform them as best I can. Um the interesting thing in 1999

someone did a big study on glutathione and found that glutathione the reduced active form of it that some people create monstrous amounts of that because there was no product that worked back then. No glutathione that actually

worked. Um some people just have weird genetics that where they make mountains of glutathione. they have they can't it suppresses all cytoines so that's a big deal it's now been repeated six or seven times you can look at all those studies

um I send patients all the references on that kind of stuff they want it so glutathione suppresses all cytoines the new sod and uh and uh catalace we call it the triad works extremely well for doing all that so because of all this

because of my me blowing up in the marketplace place. Um, and uh, all my patients are trying to get in from Morocco and Dubai and Saudi Arabia and UAE and and um, and France and everywhere else. Um, uh, I'm needing

more help. So, and I've have a friend, we've been really good friends for 10 years now or more, maybe 12. Um, he's been really helpful. He gets what I do. He's trained with us. Uh, he's joining us. Uh, he's going to be working on Fridays for now. Come on over, Donald

Harlem. This is Dr. Harlene. He knows of everything because I talk to him about all this stuff all the time. Um, he's got and he tries it with his patients in his office in ORM and they get better, don't they? It's weird.

Yes. It's amazing. Yeah. Um, so and it answers a lot of questions physicians have. Uh, why do people have massive inflammation? I mean, it's probably the biggest thing I hear about. So, um, or pain or joint failure. There's some of those cytoines

that when they flare, they can destroy a joint in an hour or two. All your joints an hour or two. They're horrible. Um, and or there the ones who get saridosis. We had a patient flying from Hawaii with sarcoidosis. Oh my gosh, that was a nightmare. That guy, his pain was 10 on

a scale of 0 to 10. He was he was a 10. He's probably at 30. Um and but it took us a a week to figure it out. And um also he was flaring due to a gut infection. That's another issue. Um so yeah. So uh how long have you been a

physician now? Uh going on 26 years and uh I went to Lomma Linda University and it's a 7th Day Adventist institution and they're very big on nutrition and it was kind of in the back of my mind during my practice. Um, but now that I've been

working with Dr. Perer, uh, I have seen so many people get better and the number of people that say, "I think I'm cured." U, it's amazing. U, I've been through the process myself. U, did the CMA test, which is a blood test that we love to

see people have that test. Yeah. [clears throat] It answers a lot of root causes. Yeah. And and so I actually had nine deficiencies that were severe and Dr. Perer said, "You're this is one of the worst ones I've seen doctor."

And so I I noticed I would finish my day's work and get on a recliner at home and be really sleepy. And so he said, "You're you're people are going to have to tell you to stop talking once you get on your supplements." I it did happen. And then

after the 100 days when I got on my supplements and was feeling really good, now I didn't want to have to start weaning those off. But uh at first you're taking a lot of pills. Yeah. But yeah, I just went through that process again myself and I didn't want

to go off of them. I think I want another month or two pass. I'm like I don't want to stop these. Yeah. But after a while you get tired of taking 60 pills a day. Big bag you're carrying around. So um Yeah. Well, we get you've seen some of the cases. We get super severe

deficiencies. Um I I haven't had the worst one I've seen, but one of mine was so bad when I first so we used Spectra before we used this. That's what we used at USC. It was the gold standard for a long time. But um but now it's got kind

of looked back on as the bronze standard because this is like section 3.0, the new test we use. It's so good and so accurate. It's cheaper. Looks at three times the results. 100 different um vitamins and uh antioxidants, amino

acids, all that kind of stuff. It's just incredibly accurate. Some of the u some of the vitamins aren't really they're not physiologic. And so I've got people on 28 vitamins or 34 48. They don't want to be on cherry bark capsules and other

stuff. And I don't blame them. So we just kind of ignore those. Those are up to you. When you get your result back, you want to take the the rodeiola or whatever, have at it. But it's just going to add more vitamins to your list. Um, so, uh, things that you are born with physiologically, I'm not going to

worry too much about. We got enough to worry about. Um, so what's the most interesting case you say? Well, I was, um, this wasn't even my patient. It was parents of a patient who had autism. He was 13 years old. He'd

always be on his little device um not talking a just a ver not ver non-verbal non-verbal and um and and so we got him on this this is what I'm really impressed with uh personal wellness MD is the glutathione

product and so we put them on that we put them on the sod and then I I recommended catalace and within about two months this child was now being a lot more verbal and the parents couldn't really uh deal with his

emotions because he was none emotions and now he's he's a teenager with emotions and so they were amazed and so he uh they they have him on those products and when an autism case uh presents they

have not had the social skills uh developed and so they I do find they still need to do therapy. Yeah. Besides just medication. But yeah, that was that was a really cool case.

I saw 18year-old 6'3, just a good-looking kid, young man, but he was completely autistic, just nonverbal, self- stemmed, stood in a corner at the facility all day. And we got him on the glutathione.

and um he was from the polygamy towns down south. He got kicked out and he's just kind of wandering homeless and someone found him and they realized he was autistic and his state took him over and put him in that facility. Um my

friend called me over as the medical director of that facility to fat cats bowling alley here in Provo and I was over there and this young man was talking to me. I had been medical director of that facility when was over the state stuff and um I thought he looked familiar but I couldn't remember

who he was. He and then after mom was like because they some the kids were bowling from the facility and um and some of the attendants were there from the facility obviously and I thought he was one of the attendants. Then he started saying do you know where my

mommy and daddy are? Why am I here? And I'm like, what? What did what? And then my friend Mike is was the medical director said, "Yeah, this is so and so and he was nonverbal autistic and this is him after three months of and so

someone needs to adopt him um take care of him and and catch him up education wise." I think they found a family that was very willing to do that. Just seemed like a really nice young man. Um, I get a lot of I'm get probably see two or three uh ADHD autistic kids that they

know. Word. I think Word's gotten out in the community. So, I see these kids and they're usually nonverbal. They're self- simming. They're three or four years old by maybe five. They're getting them earlier and earlier and um and three

months later, the parents are calling me going and telling me how great he's doing, everything else. But then they always say, "How do we shut him up?" Because he never talked. He's talking all the time now. He reads everything. He gets up in the middle of night, comes and talks to us. And we're like, "Oh my

gosh, what do we do?" I'm like, "Well, stop his glutathione. You give him about six months, but don't do that." Clearly, they're like, "No, no, we're just joking. We can't we can't get him to shut up. What a change." I'm like, "Just be caught up. He'll be fine. Now he's four years old.

And a lot of times this is why some K so all these kids have a homoyine problem every single one of them which means they can't detox which means because that their transpiration pathway is broken. They don't make enough glutathione. So once the parents get them through that detox stage you get a normal kid and they'll say some vaccine

did it or something else did it to begin with. Um and that was the moment I'm like probably just pushed him over the edge. That's why some kids don't have any problems with vaccines. It's not a problem. They can take you give them anything. They're just fine. Um, but

kids with homo assisting problem, if they get a if they get vaccinated or or receive some kind of medication or or get exposed to some toxin, it it's devastating. So, and basically, I was watching all that come out of these kids

over the three months of the parents were just going, he's getting better every day. He's getting better. And pretty soon you got a normal three or four year old. He might be six months behind or buying on his markers, but um he catches up. They're quick. I I remember a number another case where

the dad was crying in my office with gratitude because his 18-year-old autistic son wanted to go to different restaurants now, whereas he would only eat one food. Yeah. So that was that was very touching to me. You see those kids in your in your

church or in your ward or wherever at you know at work or whatever and they're they're self simming or they're they can't they're trying they go they're trying to say something they can't get it out. Trust me they're they're awake in there. They they most of the things

they understand they just don't have the capability to get around the confusion in their brain and slowly that just clears off and you get a normal kiddo. Um, and so it's really cool to watch and watch unfold. Um, I don't know how to

get more into that. They don't need to come and see me. They can just take the glutathione. But, um, how to get in more into that space uh, without making claims. It just does what it does. It's um RFK and Trump got up there and talked

about the lucavin the fenic acid how it's going to change the world and how they're making it available now and you don't need a prescription all that or anyone can get it and um that shocked me because I'm like that's

not the problem with with kids with autism. Um Luca will help some that can't absorb folate. I mean we deal with those kids all day long. that's not co going to cause them to be autistic. They uh they you we give them folinic acid. We use source naturals off off of u off

of Amazon. So it's easy to use. It's been available for years. Um and 50 milligram is a lot of is a lot of folinic acid to give someone. So I don't know I the kids some of them improved dramatically but it just hasn't been the

panacea that they thought it'd be. But glutathione, if it works, it's got to work. It's got to have a patent. It's got to have validation. It's got to really be the real deal because there's 70 of them that are garbage out there that don't work. Sorry. They just don't work. They won't make your kid better.

They won't do any of the stuff we're talking about. That's what US patents are all about. That's what validation's all about. I mean, it takes years to get those things. We have patents now all over the world for our glutathione. So, uh, it was that unique that we got patents in

Japan, in Canada, in Australia, all over. So, we have tech no one else has. It's a great weapon. Mhm. Yeah. And we don't charge exorbitantly for it. It's really complicated to make.

I have a friend in Austin who has a biotech. I've called him a couple times. He's always like, "$1,200 a ball." He tells me everything should be 1,200 on [clears throat] that. like her glueathon should be 1,200. You have patents. It's a biotech product. It's really a biological uh 1,200 a bottle. I'm like

what? Well, I will never do that. So, it might be a little pricier than the real cheap stuff, but not much for all the patent. It's a complicated process to make that stuff and to make it work. So, we have to follow our patent guides. So,

do we have any followers? Anyone listen? We have 136 people watching. Wow. Okay. Did you want to ask more questions? Ask Do you have any good questions to ask him off there?

Mention about testing being on sales for the next 24 hours. I didn't know that. Okay. Testing is on sale. How you say it, Jackson. Yeah, just real quick. Uh testing is on sale. That's the CMA intracellular

testing and the genetic testing. $200 off CMA with a consult bundle as well as $100 off the DRP genetics test with a consult bundle as well. Next 24 hours, go to danburermd.com or reach out to the office tomorrow. give us a call or email

us and our front staff will be so happy to help you get take advantage of that testing. And those of you here tonight, if you want to get the testing done, you definitely can. We've got our photmist here ready to help draw if you would like to do that. So, okay. Uh I designed that matching DRP. It has

all 22 snips for assisting the two for PMT. It's also got four cytoines on it. I've got a new comprehensive cytoine panel. I'm just keep asking why has no one done this before? The guy who owns Maxin's super nice. Um he's like, "God, I've

been waiting for some doctor to do this." I'm like, "Well, I'm I'm the doctor of course." So, um wasn't some immunologist or immunological group or some immunology division at at at Mayo or Johns Hopkins or somewhere like that?

Why haven't they done this? Why am I doing this? Um, but we have a treatment because glutathione suppresses all cytoines, but but it works even better when you give it with the biological. So, I'll just keep saying that. So, we don't want to supplant the biologicals.

I'm not going to push them out of the way because I don't I'm not suicidal. Don't want to end up dying all of a sudden, but we're not going to push the biologicals out of the way. So, they're still necessary, but glutathione can help them working better. And um a lot

of bi a lot of cytoines don't have any FDA approved biological. There's no treatment for them. They you know what they do? They give you steroids and pain meds and steroids do nothing for b for cytoines. Zero. They do cause a lot of side effects but that's a bad choice.

They're better to do nothing than that. But um I see the pain meds but we get people off all that all the time. So read my reviews. Um anyway, do you have any more questions? You guys have questions? Go ahead.

Yeah, you make sure I wrote the number one bestselling book on MTHFR, the 85% solution. Two years I was number one on Amazon with that book. The number one book overall. Um and you

grab a copy here if you want it, but if you came here, we should give you a copy. But um but it I'm going to update it here shortly. But yeah, all everything I'm talking about, all these 22 snips, all the PMT, all that, they're

all except for the cytoines, they're all u methylation snips, MTHFR, C677T, A129C. If you're homozygous on either one of those, it is the worst. It disrupts that transforation pathway. It

causes the biggest homoysting problem. Doctors are wrong when they say those don't matter. We don't check that crap. We don't believe in it. Good luck. People are right. If you're if you have that C677T or the A129C or you have one of each,

same thing compound hetererozygous. Um it's going to disrupt your transforation pathway and cause elevated homoyine level. Uh when I diagnose that genetically too, people would do a homoyine level going fine. There are 12

vitamin deficiencies that if you have any of them, it'll falsely suppress your homoyine level. So, it's a bad it just if you have the genetic problem, you have it and you can't detox. Just know that first. Um, sorry, hang on.

I I have seen more people in the general public become more aware of MTHFR. Yeah. And and so that's really good. And we got these tests, the genetic testing, the CMA tests. It'll tell it'll point a sweat. We need to replace it. Yeah. What What are you doing for dosing on

MDHFR? We have our MTHFR uh daily. Um we have a variety of of MTHR products up there as the first to really hit the market with them. We keep updating it. Um you got to play it by ear. Some people overmethylate at the

drop of a hat. You got to be careful. We have a hydroxy uh folinic hydroxybutral folinic acid combination for those people. We also have a methyl-free B complex now for those people so they don't overmethylate. I overmethylate

readily. Uh we're going to come back out with our our tiny bites. Uh they're the MTR renew but they're chewables and you put them in force. I take a fourth of one. If I don't I feel horrible. You take it with the bars. I do take

eight glutathione a day. Well, I make it. Why not? I know the guy. It's me. But yeah, that stuff is amazing. You have a high enough glutathione level, guess what? You'll never have a heart attack or kidney failure. I get people off dialysis all the time. Reduce their blood pressure as well.

It will if you if it's homocyine related. Absolutely will. Yeah, I see it all the time. Yeah. Yeah, I have patients who we have record of them and they're like, I want to do this for my blood pressure. Like, I don't know if it'll work, but 3 months later, like, my blood pressure is normal. I'm off my meds. I'm like, okay. Doesn't always

work, but it helps your kidney function better. People move at least uh two levels up on their kidney function. If you have friends in kidney failure, stop that nonsense. Tell them to try the glutathione at least. It may or may not help, but I'd say 80% chance it'll help a lot. So, a lot. So, why not? there

there can be a tendency to try to correct it right away. And so that that's the danger of that is you're doing too much. Yeah. So you feel you feel good the first week or 10 days and then all of a sudden you crash again. Yeah. That's when the methylation just happen.

Yeah. You're overth with kidney kidney problems that are on diialysis. I'm not I don't know if I'll save it live, but yeah, we we deal with that all the time. Yeah. doesn't always work, but it's

worth a shot. They you they often don't know the exact cause of the insult to your kidneys. Why not? It could be a heavy metal issue. It could be something like that. I don't know. I just know they get better and the literature says they should get better. They do get better. Also, if

it's homoyine related, that's IL8. The cytoine that homocyine stimulates your monocytes to produce two cytoines. Glutathione suppresses those. That's why the arteries tend to soften. That's why the stud has shown if you have high enough glutathione level, you don't have

a heart attack or stroke. You don't you don't even get kidney failure. So, does it help with the nitric oxide as well? It will. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. The nerf two we have in our catal it's a new way to do catalies. Uh we have a really

potent nerf two in there can help a lot too. People feel really good on that combination. I get people who are on death bed like that sirid case that flew in from another state out in the ocean, but I'll just leave it right there. And um he was dying. He said he was dying. I

believe he was dying. They to banned him from the hospitals in that that on that particular small state. They said, "You're faking it. You need anti-depressants. You need psychological help." The doctors banned him and then they banned him from getting the ambulance. He had sarcoidosis.

He had his genetics were terrible. The immunologist who went to there didn't didn't figure any of that out. Why am I doing their job? I'm nothing. I'm board certified. I'm I'm a researcher.

Yeah, it's disturbing. Wow. So, I think they do good work, but the imanologist, but I don't know. I haven't seen it so far. What was the genesis of your your trying to do this for everybody? This is amazing.

It's weird. I have this genetic practice that grew and grew and grew and I kept thinking I'd see it's just open to anyone. I never seen anyone with three arms. That'd be so cool. I'll be like, "What is that? Stick it out. Is that that arm?" Wave it at me. That is cool.

No, I never see that. I never see anyone with three eyes. I don't I don't get to see the really fun stuff. I think that's been taken care of decades before at the pediatrics office. We'll remove that eye, you know, or that extra arm. We don't need that as a baby. Um, and just like they do the tail, kids are born

with tails. I don't know if you guys know that all the time. They remove them. So, um, and usually the parents are told, but then they're like, "What does that mean?" Um, yeah, sometimes they're really long tails, but uh, but yeah, it's interesting. Um,

they're really long. Wait, did your son have a really long tail, Jackson? [laughter] Jackson just had a baby I'm freaking about. But u yeah u but everyone kept coming to see me for inflammation and then I kind of picked up this meme.

Everyone was saying I do have a high homoyine have high HCRP have a d- dimer. I'm like okay I started reading a lot about that homoyine. Homoyine's been known for 94 years. We've known about it. They had a treatment for it for 43

years. It was they starved you to death. They put you on a lomionine low amino acid diet. 2002 someone went back there's a lady doctor over in Colorado looked at all the data and she said, "Holy crap, this needs to stop because people were dying more quickly from the

malnutrition than they were from homoyine." I collected for that uh textbook 600 stories of football players or basketball players in high school dying on the court, news clipping, stuff like that. That's a homoyine problem, but no one ever figured really put that

together. They don't know what to treat it with anyone. Aspirin doesn't help it. Steroids don't help it. They try and get statins out. That doesn't help it. The problem with the homocyine level, you don't worry about the homocyine. You worry about the ILA and the MCP1, the

two cytoines it produces. That's what kill you. That's what causes those death. You get into a flare u and it can shut down your kidneys. It can cause a heart attack or stroke. And that's what's happening to those kids who died. They're in a stressful football game, basketball. Think about the stress for

some of those kids, playing their heart out, and just kill over death and they can't find anything when they examine their hearts. I just had a a physical a year ago, and I asked my doctor to a monocy lab. He goes, "What do you want to do that for?"

Yeah, that's the way they treat it. My textbook's going to change all that. It should. the data there like no one knows there 22 SIPS they think it's three or four SIPs that cause the homoyine disruption you know the disruption in your transpiration pathway no there are 22 it took us a long time

Jackson and I worked on that trying to figure that out uh months and Donald was in on that we all tried to figure it out 22 snips it takes um and if you have one of them just one of them is homozygous you have a homoysteine problem and

sometimes I get that I'm like you have one snip but enough to kill you. So, yeah, because it disrupts that chain. It's like that road to Hana. I What island is that on? Maui. Maui. So, um they these people don't have a road to Hana. They they never get

there. They don't get to Hana. The bridges out. Some have seven bridges out. I've seen 10 bridges out. I don't think I've seen beyond that. But and some have one bridge out. Doesn't matter. It's all the same. Can't get there. Even if he did get a homoyine

level, I don't believe he would know what to do about it. Yeah, exactly. Oh, yeah. It's a process. I say after as I was writing this book, I'm like, "Yeah, we uh it's a complicated process to deal with it." And so I laid that out in that

textbook. It's got to be done. It needs to be addressed. It's a big problem. Uh 60% of the US population has it. At least it was 38% with the four snips. If you had 18 more, we figured it'd be 60, maybe higher. Uh, and everyone I see,

all 15 patients every every day have a homoyine problem. Every one of them. I'm like, this gets old. And I don't want to see someone without it. I want to see someone with three arms, but not happening. [laughter] Do three eyeballs again. That'd be cooler. But

hey, can we pause for just a minute? I want to connect a couple more microphones and then we can pass. Okay.

Um, no, it's okay. We don't need them. I'm just going to connect these. Yeah. I don't know. I think that book is Oh, we'll see. I've been approached by Forbes and other people. They want to publish the book, you know.

Pretty much they like just put some AI on it and it'll be it'll be come out AI crap. So, no, I don't think it will be for this way. I think the cardiologists need to open assisting clients. If I was a cardiologist and I saw this, I'd be like, "This will be too much fun. We can

do this all day long. I'm going to I'm going to do what BERS does." The problem is they have to buy our tech, our glutathione or nions. Yeah, they'll try, you know, some of the others on the market. They just don't work. Ours, we have tons of IL8 that were high

and then low. I just went through a stack more tonight. 550 high then low. There's nothing that does that other than glutathione. So, hey Dan, real quick. Do you want to introduce Justice with Dr. Yeah. You want me to switch? I well I

want to do some more question answer with you too. So just keep everyone this is justice my son-in-law. He's super awesome. He's the top ICU paramedic for Orm City. He's he really good at starting IVs in the back of a rocket to roll in ambulance with trauma

with smoke in the air and all that. Um he works here. He sees people for the vitamin deficiency with the Cas with Redox. Him and Jackson both do that kind of helping me take off the load. Um, and Justice I think more people think he's

better than me. He's certainly taller, better looking. He's built like Tarzan. Whatever. Can't help. He can't help it. Who would win an arm wrestling contest? Probably me because I bite his knuckles and that'd be it. [laughter] But yeah, he's like Thor. I used to be

this scrawny little kid when he married Bailey. And um and we did a CMA on him, didn't we? Yeah. Yeah. We've done quite a few now. Yeah. Don't you feel a lot better when you do them? Absolutely. I will say um I have been able to gain weight. I mean when I met Dr. Perer I believe I was about 150

pounds. So um slowly worked through that and I've been able to maintain that. So it was always hard for me. Yeah. Now he maintains his weight and works here 60 hours a week with the fire department and he's working all the time. So where's Sage his his daughter?

She's running around here somewhere. Um thank you Justice of course everyone wants to see you. So Justice, did you have anything else you wanted to say to everyone or No, to any patients. I just like to say, you know, all the information when you meet with me or Jackson, all the information is coming

from Dr. Perer. Um, we've been working with him a long time. So, um, whether you meet with us or Dr. Perer or Dr. Harleen, it's going to be coming from all the same information. You're going to be getting all the same, um, supplement guide and, you know, the whole information packet that Dr. Per puts together for you. So,

we're pretty good at it. And it's not, you just can't read it and go, I'm going to take these vitamins. Uh, good luck. Try it. I mean, it'll it'll be pretty good, but it won't be perfect. So, yep. I'm just a voice helping get the message out for Dr. Perer.

Thank you, Justin. You're awesome. Of course. Thank you. Uh, Chantel, will you come up? Chicky. So, this is my youngest daughter, Chicky. She's coming up. Uh, we call her Chantel or Chicky. That's Chiki is kind

of the family name. We probably shouldn't use it. Hi guys. It's nice to meet you guys. Chantel Perer. Um and she works too. She does our SEO and stuff like that. Cheeky when you were 11. We you were feeling really awful and we did that vitamin

panel on you. Uh do you remember all that? Yeah, I do. I was really quite sickly all my life. I know I'm tall now, but I was really short when I was younger and I was just really sick all the time. I was out for months at a time when I was a little kid and I never went to school.

Not your fault, but yeah. But when she was 11, I said, "Let's do the vitamin panel on her." We finally pulled the trigger and um I grew like six inches in a lot. I got super tall. I have crazy stretch marks on the back of my legs cuz I literally grew six inches in a few after we did

that. Yeah. Yeah, if you have a short child who's tired all the time and he's like he's statues falling off the growth curves. He or she get the vitamin panel. They'll look like Chicky when they're down. Well, I don't know about that, but she's taller than me. And uh we did it again when she was 17 after we survived through the plague

and everything. Uh she was again it was really bad. And um you were really struggling then too. I think you grew three or four more inches after that. Yeah, I did. I grew again when I turned 17 another three or four inches when we did the vitamin panel again and I started taking them and I felt really

good. I could be in all those sports that I always wanted to do finally and I just felt really healthy finally after being super sick. And you were boxing beating up boys. Yeah, [laughter] she beat up boys. Don't mess with her boys. Don't mess

with her. [laughter] Yeah. Okay. Thank you for all that. Thanks, guys. Yeah, I get a lot of parents are like, "Bobby is small. Bobby wants to be a pro

baseball player, pro football player." I'm like, "Bobbyy's 14 and not very big. Bobby needs vitamins and darn if he doesn't have horrible deficiencies and Bobby grows four or five inches in a year." So, doesn't always happen, but happens a lot. So, it's crazy. It makes

sense. You're optimizing their nutrient status. It's really cool. So, did you want to get any more questions from here in the audience? Yeah, more questions. I know you have questions that weren't. Oh, real quick. Oh, either one. Breen wants me to do my intro, too. Jackson should say hi.

Oh, this is Jackson Lin. He's my stepson. He runs all the businesses here. Him and his mom. Um, and um and Denise, where's Denise? He's around. We can get her back up in a minute, too. So, um, so Jackson also sees patients or

sorry, does nutritional counseling with the vitamin deficiency panel. So, and everyone likes him. He does a lot of videos, too. Kind of helps everything going. I've got 19 books coming out this year. We've already had one come out. We're about to get a bunch more out. Uh,

it's going to be overwhelming. So, um, if you're not on our launch team list, just email us at dandanperm.com. Get on the list. That way you can get the books really cheap on Kindle, like a $1.99. We just asked for honest review after that. Um and uh but yeah, that's

our goal with the the books to begin with, but Jackson's help with that process to a lot. So um everyone's been asking where's the homoysteine book? Why is it not out yet? It's not done. It's done. I just wanted to mention too that you have your 600page textbook

which is amazing, but it's a textbook. super dense and and it only can be sold as a paperback or or or hard textbook, not as a Kindle. They won't let you do that. Yeah. And so we've been revising into two other versions of it as well. One

that's more condensed versions, more you're talking about outlive toxic. Yeah. More heavy-handed studies and things to look at and really dive into the protocol and then what we call an unsciency version of the book that's very easy to read. 45 pages maybe just quickly grasp the idea of

homoysteine and how to work with it. Very little science in there for all you non-science people. So, but that's that's why we've had a little bit of a delay because we're just trying to make them as widely available and as accessible to everyone. Yeah. So, thank you for your patience with that. He's got several other amazing books

that we want to start hitting out as soon as we get one about kids with autism toxic genetics. Yeah, that's coming out. But I just kind of told you all the punchlines on that. Yeah. Yeah. But it's good to be able to dive into all those studies and hear hear real life stories. Look at

my reviews. You have questions, look at what the parents are saying on there for you parents. So, it is what it is. So, and I'm proud of it. We worked hard to get here. I didn't know what here was. This young man over here was just asking us um how I kind of got here. I'm not

even sure how I got here. I it's the way it needed to go because I was trying to help people with inflammation. I knew that big problem on on Google that people just get really frustrated. How do I take care of my inflammation? It's

a real hot topic and some have horrible inflammation. It's not magic. Um and you can say well maybe it's rheumatoid arthritis, maybe it's vitamin deficiency. Okay, we deal with the vitamin deficiencies, but rheumato arthritis we know now is caused by cytoines. So u and we have the only

superoxide disputase that that patent pending that works. It's pharma level in our gluathons the same thing. We're not bragging about I'm just telling you the facts of it. It's why it works. It's why you have all those reviews because we

have tech no one else has. So uh ask us some more questions. Yeah. Do I have any more here in the audience real quick? Do you have one here? I'm gonna come. Actually, bring your mic. Ask that again.

Yeah, brain fog. Wait, what? Let's have her ask again. Yeah, a brain fog and tired. I'm tired all the time. Brain fog is usually caused by iron deficiency or CoQ10 deficiency. Not many other reasons for it that I can find on the CMA. It's usually those two, but

iron deficiencies. I deal a lot with severe iron deficiencies that no one can seem to fix. You're giving these people transfusions. Oh my gosh, don't do that. You're giving them IV trans IV iron transfusions, whole blood transfusions. That's what don't do that if you can

avoid it. Uh and um and they can't get their iron levels up. They stay for a while. If you have any any B vitamin deficiencies or a vitamin C deficiency, you can't absorb iron at a at a cellular level.

That could be iron storage disease. Um and so we check for that on our max gym. So um uh actually so we can figure that out. Got another question.

So, I took Ozmpic for type 2 diabetes and it just wrecked my liver. I have fatty liver. Would the glutathione help that? Oh, some a lot more than you know because it has fossil in it in our liposome. Um, most fatty liver cases I

get. And it's also um it's also usually goes with type two diabetes. It's called PEMT. It's a fairly new genetic disorder that um that we learned about with from the human genome project about five years ago. We knew some about it. We

learned a lot more. There's hardly any research on it when I first started looking at it. Sorry. Um that's the other textbook I have coming out. Um I've gotten several people off liver transplant lists with that. Um I just got another one off of

two lane's list. Um I got uh I think three or four off memories list one year and they came to talk to me. They flew down one of them flew down here to talk to me about it and um and interview me about it. They thought the patient they had interviewed all the patients

patients were telling me they had PMT u and they thought and I'm like no they were saying PEMT because they said we can't find anything on PMT. And I'm like it's called PMT. You can't spell is the problem. So these are really smart hepatologists. I'm like okay. Um yeah

and you treat them appropriately again with our tech again with phosphotylcholine. I use seeking help phosphotylcholine um and u it's better than liver failure because that's where a lot of those cases are headed. PMT has two arms.

Either causes the gallbladder disease fatty liver nash non-alcoholic stepitis. If you have fatty liver, you're probably already edging into the nash. Eventually goes to liver failure, liver cancer or death. Um, or it can go into the ulcer

colitis, Crohn's disease. It causes obesity and type two diabetes. When you treat appropriately, all that goes away. Meaning phosphotylcholine, meaning phosphotyler, meaning choline. There's five things we get for it. sod glutathione to remove

the inflammation in the liver and the scar tissue and get rid of the toxins. Um, every PMT case I see has a homoysteine problem. Every patient I see is a homoyine problem. So, glutathione's got the answer for all that.

But they get better. Look on my reviews. Great place to look. We don't pay for those. Um, have you dealt with PMT? Well, mostly just in in this office here, but I had a question for you is what percentage of your patients are

having a PEMT genetic mutation? Four to 15. I don't know what that number would be, but 30% or 25. 28%. Yeah. 18.8% of the US population has it.

Then I go to these conferences in in Anaheim and that and the head of uh of um uh post-graduate conferences stuff like that from Harvard speaks out he's a a hepatologist and they're just trying to figure out why

liver failure is becoming such a big problem. nash nappal D liver failure and I'd like to go there and say have you looked at PEMT because it it's so you talking about the fifth of the country has it so it's a big deal

and no one knows about it dust my textbook I I had a patient um I I've worked at a drug rehab facility for for 10 years and the girl just kept having pancreatitis and they didn't know why. And so we we

got her to do the PM well the genetic test and sure enough she was positive for PMT. So um got her on the phosphotylcholine phosphotyl serine and uh her her amaase levels went down her lip base levels went down. Yeah I see

that I I like I like chronic pancreatitis cases or acute pancreatitis cases. they keep reoccurring. It's because you have PMT and you treat the PEMT and it goes away. I I've dealt with that probably 10 or 12 times. I want to see

more cases with liver problems and and pancreatic problems. If you've had your gallbladder out in your 20s or 30s, you have PMT until proven otherwise. And no one's ever told you that. I'm telling you that. Is that is what you're doing helping people with

they've done the brain scan slices on the postmortem uh they're doing a postmortem uh brain scan or scans on the on the brain and they're finding uh amalayise and and tow and uh

is that going to uh reduce that as well? studies have shown that reduced glutathione prevents the fibrillary tangles in the amaloles and towel formation. I mean that's you go to pubmed and find that out. Um yeah I did that big talk at AMMG right after the co

thing kind of quieted down and joined the first medical conferences that went on as a keynote speaker and uh I talked about dementia causes um and uh boy I really dug into it. uh certain like there's a zanthin can help prevent that

there only two aazanthin well there's really only one aazanthin in the world that works one it's by design for health that's called zenthomega grill that's everything else has no validation that's garbage all that mess is on Amazon but

if you want the good one you fear dementia get on the good one from from design for all zen zanth begins with the x zanth mega yeah all that can help prevent the towel formation and all that. Yeah, it's a different issue, but

the vitamin deficiencies I was talking about earlier are just common things that people we just dealt with that with one of our our staff's dads who had dementia. And I'm like, he doesn't have dementia. He's got blah blah blah and they did the vitamin panel on him. Guess

what? He had blah blah blah. So some of those hockey, car wrecks like I had. Yeah, I was in a coma for five weeks at

LDS. Broke 33 bones a year and a half. I was really messed up. Couldn't talk or walk when I come out of there. I built all this since then. Go ahead. Um, is there something do you is there something that helps with

people's eyes? Like being able to like I feel like there's a lot of people who there's different things that they say can help your eyesight. But what what Yeah, vitamin A and vitamin E, but you have to do good ones of both. Um, that

vitamin E from an E from design is really good. The vitamin A I don't care so much about. just get on it or get on the uh the u what's the precursor to vitamin A? No, betaarotene. Betaarotene. I one day saw three 20some

year old kids did nutritional consults on them. All three of them had lost they didn't know each other different parts of the country didn't you know they had no idea what I was doing that day and they all had lost night vision and color vision and the opthalmologists were like we

don't know what it is how do they not teach this in residency fellowship those opthalmologists are the smartest the best doctors in the world as you all know uh how [clears throat] do they not know that but every single one of them had a beta carotene and a vitamin severe

vitamin E deficiency like super severe it's like scurvy cases super severe vitamin C deficiency um and they so they lost their driver's license all three of them so we treated that appropriately the vision came back within three months they passed the

driving test and got their license back well I went through the same thing about a year later um it got really weird my eyes were really tired all the time and u and I started in the afternoon about 3:30 every day everything went gray out.

I couldn't see at night. Denise was having to drive me to and from work and I started to realize, oh well dummy, I've got a, you know, beta carotene and and vitamin E problem. I did the test. I started those vitamins, did that CMA again, waited for the result. Yeah, it's super severe vitamin E and um and beta

carotene deficiencies. What about like tear ducts? Like people who I mean like there's people who have tears that like fall like their face, but some people I can't fix that so much. Can't fix that. But most of what I see are people losing night vision and color vision. If you've lost night vision, color

vision, it's not magical. It's a vitamin deficiency. And you're going to go blind, completely blind if you keep good living with it. It will eventually take your eyesight. So, does that have to do with like people like people who have glasses,

they don't have glasses when they're younger and then they start to have glasses like eye deterioration? I see a lot of that where people are like, "My eyes got so much better on the bottom n I I got rid of my glasses." It doesn't happen very often, but yeah, I wish it'd work with me. Didn't um that was crazy when I saw that. So, I

helped there's a university back east that their psychiatric residency kind of went on strike kind of I don't know if they rioted or what they did. [laughter] They're like, they told the these head of the department, the psychiatric residency program director

that they were done. They were do patients didn't want all these meds anymore. The psych meds were scaring everyone. They needed they wanted to know their options. And so once a week I help them. I'm doing with a couple universities. Once a week I try and help them or once every other week or when

they need it. I see a a a patient with bipolar disorder or something crazy going on with them, depression, whatever, and we do that vitamin pill on them. Guess what? They get dramatically better. Lithium deficiency will cause bipolar disorder.

So, we deal with that, too. All kinds of weird stuff. It's weird. Um, the guy worked with the USC, remember from Harvard NIH, Walter Reed, he was always complaining, grumbling under his breath. He's like, "Every doctor should be doing this every year to every patient. We wouldn't have all these problems." Blah

blah blah. And I was just like, "Dude, Harvard killed the vitamin a long time ago. Give it up." Mayo Clinic, everyone like you shouldn't take vitamins. They don't really help. Remember that when all that came out? What a bunch of garbage. I wonder if you were do you even you guys know what you're saying?

Are you idiots? So, I mean, look at the data. So, really, how how am I going to treat these scurvy cases if you ban vitamins? No, they don't think that happens. EMRs, electronic medical records that doctors use. The AI in there cannot diagnose a vitamin

deficiency. It cannot do it. Those those scurvy cases have been to multiple Johns Hopkins, Mayo, Johns Hopkins, uh, sorry I said that, uh, Stanford, University of Utah, their family doctor, their internist, everything else. No, they can't diagnose it. And my all my doctor

friends, the few I still have because I'm out grow I'm outag aging all of them, but they uh they said, "Yeah, they call themselves EMR docs because they put in the data and what comes out from the EMR is what they have to do, but they don't get reimbursed and they can get fired by the administration people.

So they can't explore other options, which is crazy. Do you want to take a couple questions from online?" Sure. Have you [clears throat] seen kind of all that? I I was thinking of an example of this. There was a movement to make knack or

inetylcysteine a prescription only. Guess what knack turns into on the pathway? Glutathion. Does anybody know glutathione? Yeah, it's our answer. And yeah, good. He answered. Well, you use it in ERS. They use it.

They use mucist when you have a tonal overdose because they're hoping you'll form enough glutathione to save your liver. If not, your liver fails and it's a really painful death. Takes about seven to 14 days. You turn green and you die. Um and

u that's one of the things we have the only pathway forward for an IV glutathione. That's what we're going to p pursue. I know um um Andrew and I talk a lot about that. Yeah. because it would it would take care of that tunnel overdose acetaminophen overdose in

seconds. It's the number one cause of attempted suicide in the US is acetaminophen overdose and really bad choice and Tylenol or acetaminophen according to RFK Jr. is the cause of the the

problems and um it suppresses or lowers your glutathione lowers the glutathione. Yeah. So, guess what they do when you come back? Those little kiddos. Every parent tells me this. I'm like, "So, he had these high fevers after he got the vaccine." Yeah. Meaning, you know, when

that big one they get when they I don't even know what it's called, but um and they and I'm like, "What they tell you to do?" They we gave Tylenol for three days. I'm like, "Yeah, that's Yeah. Okay. Yeah. The problem." Okay, Jackson.

Yeah. One [clears throat] question was, "I'm so curious what your take on eczema is. I've had it for 13 years. Tried everything." Cytoine. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It could be a B vitamin deficiency, but usually sodakine like I there's several of them that'll do it.

Glutathione. Try it. Instead of seeing me coming to do all this stuff, try our bars glutathione or try the glutel from an iron and chin or fararma. You can get it from our office. Um it's topical. Uh but it you need it's just a systemic problem.

So it's a big cytoine issue. Followup to that. Do you know which cytoines someone was asking? No, not our cytoine panel would be helpful for that when that Yeah, it really would be. I'm starting to see people there's a thing called a cytoine 13 panel that checks for 13

different blood levels of serum levels of cytoines. It's the only shotgun approach we really have for it. I keep getting people with three or four of those that are positive. They're in agony when they come in. They're horrible. They're they're suffering immensely from four different cytoines.

Oh my gosh. There's no treatment for that. They can't give you one biological or two or three. That'd be like 40,000 a month in costs and side effects. No. Yeah. Okay. Um

hold on. I'm turning on a camera for me, too. There we go. That's cool. Okay, let's see about taking all of the supplements. Taking all these things all at once. Um, what about the liver processing it? No, all at once. You go really slowly, right? But

yeah, your liver is fine. They're vitamins. You need it. It's better. I hear the argument like, well, okay, you can die from the scurvy. You can take four vitamin C a day, maybe six. It won't affect my liver. I think your liver is the last thing I'd worry about. Don't worry about living because you're

you're man these people get really ill. It's not a Bible argument. If you have PMT, that's another issue. We try to normalize your liver function and then put you on. Oh, the other arm. PMT has two arms. Either causes the fatty liver

problem, the gallbladder, fatty liver, nash, liver failure, or causes all supervised Crohn's. There's two arms. And you treat them both the same. and and we we resolve a lot of we're just yeah PMT related ulcerized crimes make

it normal. I I would say another point to that is the people aren't going to stay on the high dose vitamins for the rest of their life. No, there are some like PEMT they just got to take some of that every day for the rest of their life. So their liver stays normal.

No. Yeah. Yeah. Most of them it's 100 it's 100 days. Yeah. So, and then we give you maintenance. If it's a really severe severe result the first time of like 23 like I had once 19 super severe I was I was dying. That's

all that matter. I was after right after CO we worked nine a day. Um and CO twice during that time. Um but um we um but yeah, you might want to repeat it once, but usually one time is good and you

feel really good and it's like you feel normal. Say, "Here's the three maintenance vitamins. You're all probably, you know, $30 a month using them." Great. Because they don't want to see you backing out. One time is enough.

And then how often should they repeat their Cas? If they have bad symptoms, can't figure it out, you'll know if you start falling off. I'll say, "Get back on your original top 10 vitamins that were really horrible. See if that's it." May maybe the answer usually is. Doesn't work, then we'll repeat the panel. That

could be a year later. So, perfect. You never want to feel that way again. I know how bad some of you feel. It's horrible. So, I've been there. What about bars glutathione for children? works

totally. Remember the the little ADHD kids? Yeah. And we have a liquid version. Yeah. Or you can use the glitter roll. Yeah. Either one. We don't care. All of them. Um, what do you know about low transfer on an iron panel? What could cause that?

Vitamin deficiencies, other things causing that usually. Yeah. I know we just talked about this a little bit, but how often would you want to retest CMA or would you need to do genetics multiple times? No, genetics once as we get we there's

literally a million things. You could touch genetically. I just can't figure a need for them. I get these crazy panels from Europe, European patients, Saudi patient, stuff like that. I'm like, what is this? This is not even good. It's

just sh weird shotgun approach that someone's like, "Let's just throw all these in there." Um, I don't know why they're doing them. Makes no sense. It's not a problem. There's some things you can't change anyway. I do mitigatable genetics that you can fix. My goal is

you don't die. So, some things I'm talking to you about will kill you. So, so yeah, I know we have a lot of times patients try to bring in their own genetic testing and sometimes we can work through it and figure out some of the good things that

we're looking for. A lot of times it's really difficult and the data is unworkable. I don't have seven hours to go through it all. Totally. So, we definitely prefer if you get our DRP genetics. Yeah, get ours. It's just designed for all this, please. Uh and uh yeah, we're going to eventually go to

strictly that. Yeah, that's great. If someone's been been has been treated for mold toxicity and dealing with mass cell activation but they're not responding what would you they have a homocyine problem. Yeah. Mold toxicity glutathione a properly

validated functional glutathione like gluter or our bars will remove all mold toxicity issues in three days. Three. Take a big enough dose. It'll remove it. We sell it to black mold clinics some of the more successful ones because it works. It's the only two out there that

work. Um and um that's why some people, hear me out, that's why a family moves into a house. Mom, two kid, two of the kids get really ill from the black mold. Dad, little Tommy, big Jojo, they don't

get sick. It doesn't bother them. They don't have a homoyine problem. Mom and the other two kids do. They can't get They can't clear the toxins. Not without glutathione. Get it? There's proof right there. It's a genetic thing. Yeah. What about lupus and sojurnns?

I don't know enough about them, but I'm starting to believe everything cytoine related, but I don't want to go there. Yeah. So, I don't No, I don't know the store. Yeah. And how how would you go about testing glutathione levels? Intracellular levels. So, get a CN. You can get a serum level too, but it's

a serum. That's the intracellular you want to see. If it's not getting inside of your cells, that's a problem. If you have a super severe deficiency of glutathione on that panel, you got big problems. So, and they're genetic. I looked at four of those today.

Okay, we're just going to do a couple more questions. We've been going over an hour. I know we've got treats here at the office, too, for people that are here that we want to help share. Yeah, let's eat the treats. Yeah, I say I'll have to eat them for lunch all this week. We don't Donald could take some back to his office.

Real quick, what about someone if they have CBS? That's one of the genetic snips. CBS is one of the known old school known causes of of I mean, go pull up a uh transforation pathway image on Google images. Look at CBS. There three of them in

there. You saw lady today with all three disrupted. Are you freaking kidding me? Yeah. The guess what? It causes a self-esteem problem just like everything else. It's just there. Those are three of the 22 that do it.

Yeah. Yep. And then this is kind of a fun question real quick. Why is it the primary care has no clue about any of this? I know I can answer that one. Um I'm family practice trained. Um part of what

drew me to Dr. Pers's office is wow. I can actually do some things that are really cool and helpful. And so usually you go to your physical, you get a CBC, a CMP, a lipid test, and maybe a thyroid. And if someone has fatigue, I'll throw on some B vitamin.

Um those are all extracellular. So all of those substances are outside of the cells, but the CMA gets it inside of the cells. So in my particular case, I had a normal hemoglobin and hematocrit, but my intracellular iron was quite low and I

would get up from the chair and be a little bit lightheaded. I thought I'm just getting older. This stinks. But got on the iron. And in that particular one, you don't want to go toxic on that one. So I only did it for 50 days and then backed it off to uh every other day. And

so I right now I'm about once a week and I start to get a little lightheaded and I'll take an iron and I'm fine. Mine I went through the same thing. I thought I kept telling my wife I have a brain tumor. I'm like I stand up and everything wobbles. I did a that iron panel on me two or three times. They're

normal. I'm like it's not iron. I don't know what it is. So finally this panel this uh uh CMA redux became available. And so because the CMA was picture still wasn't picking it up and I had a super low a severely low intracellular ir

intracellular iron deficiency. Yeah. It wasn't showing up on serum levels. I felt horrible. So I dealt with it and went away. I didn't have a brain tumor. Yahoo. My wife lost a I think you got a knee tumor or it's a brain tumor. I had

a throat tumor. Anyway, they all go away. to to answer that question. Um why don't family practice doctors do the um they just don't know they're not aware they don't know how to deal with the homoyine elevation so they don't order it. Um so we're I think Dr. Perer wants

to start to educate a lot of different physicians about this and and get them going and we'll get America better one doctor at a time one textbook comes first. I'll probably get us I know the deal. I'll I'll get us to speak at numerous conferences. I'll start educating the world on it. Yeah.

The major points. I hate doing that. I like doing this. I hate traveling somewhere for the weekend. I'm going to sit there and speak. I'm going to talk to people for four hours after. It sounds fun. I've done all that before. I've I've I've been one of the most

popular speakers at multiple conferences. Uh because I do all that but it gets really old. Dr. Perer, we have something really fun and exciting and new here in our

practice. Um on Tuesdays, this is Evan. She is our physical therapist, massage therapist, and we have a little um room set up over here. So, please come back. And she's got her little chair set up. So, if you want a little shoulder and neck massage before you drive home

tonight, she's going to do those for you as a courtesy. Um, but anyways, we wanted to introduce her here tonight as well. To everybody that's watching on Facebook, we do have a massage therapist here on Tuesday. And if you have an issue that comes up during the week, please reach to us and we'll see if Evan

can meet you here. I've seen her twice. She works on I'm I'm straining. My tendons are terrible, but um she's helped me immensely just twice. So, We're so grateful. It is what a privilege to have her here with us. She's got a sports medicine background,

so she is really good. So, we're so happy to have you here with us, Evan. Thank you. Okay. Well, this is Denise, my wife. She runs everything. She answers the phone. She's over the front desk. This is a family operation.

Are we doing any injectables now here at the office? We are. I mean, we do have our second youngest daughter is a nurse and under Dr. Perser's discretion. She just left. Yeah. Yeah. She just left with our cute little granddaughter. Um, but we are offering a very limited uh use for Botox. If you've

got issues that you need to have addressed in your wellness journey, she can also do that here. Please reach to the office to get that scheduled with Bailey. And so, we've got some fun different things happening here at the office to help in a a broader sense of our wellness journey. We're so happy to have all of you here with us tonight.

Thank you for being with us. Thank all of you here. It's been so fun. Thank you. You guys wonderful. Testing is still on sale next 24 hours. Yep. Just make sure throw that out there one more time. CAS and genetic testing. Get it on and come Yeah. Come do the consults with all of us here. We're

happy to help you. Thanks, guys.